I love when people say electric cars are the solution. A very small part of our electricity comes from water, wind and none Oil or coal sources. In some places , like California, the electrical grid is so bad they have had rolling brown outs. And for a while they SCHEDULED them.

There was a piece on Hydrogen a while back that I linked to, the guys claimed they could make hydrogen at 233 percent of the amount of energy expanded to make it. I notice that story vanished QUICK.

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