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Without FRANCE there would be NO United STATES of America.
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Without Ben Franklin, there would have been no suckered French.
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Britian invaded this nation twice, folks. Hell! they burnt down our capital in the war of 1812.
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Tit for tat. Taught us a good lesson too. We got off EASY the second time.
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I have frankly never understood why America is so full of Francophobes and so full of Anglophiles.
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Look at the demographics of the time. Look at the French Revolution, those people were missed by the giant screw driver in the sky (they have a screw loose). Language has a big factor as well.
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Not that I hate England or the English, especially, but I feel a great affection for the people of France, too.
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Bof!!! You can take the Quasiwar.
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Likewise, FYI, other nations which worked their magic to help the colonies throw off the yoke of BRITISH OPPRESSION?
Spain, the Netherlands, Imperial Russia, various of the Italian states, various of the GERMAN states, too. All contributed money clandestinely to support our war of independence.
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The Netherlands does not get enough credit. Prime people that I wouldn't mind having in the Union -- after they clear off their current idiocy. Actually,
I would fight to free Flanders and return the United Provinces of the Netherlands.
Italy definantly gets a raw deal, we could have solved the Unification Problem and taken care of the nonsense politics that STILL plagues Italy. It would take another big war to fix it now.
The Germans are wierd, deserving of comradeship and condemnation.
Imperial Russia is a mess! They got a fair shake with Alaska -- all debts settled. We, might have been able to turn that mess into something decent had Roosevelt been president instead of Wilson. Not a lot you could do when the Germans so completely torpedoed that mess.
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Without that clandestine assistance from many EUROPEAN nations, it is arguable, we would STILL be a colony of Britian (or something like Canada has become).
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Quite interesting speculation on the outcome of the West. Probably would have a British colony in California and then a Revolution there.
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France refuses to be a puppet to American interests.
They decided to create their own nuclear umbrella, and they partially pulled out of the NATO defence alliance in the mid 1950s.
American government seems to have never forgiven them for NOT accepting the fact that they were also-rans in the AMERICAN hegemony game, post WWII.
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Because they played against us and gave credence to this non-aligned rabble. They are historically too unstable to be trusted with power but have miraculously not emploded yet. They may yet. Le Pen is a sheep to what reactionary may arise if they continue down the path of EU oligarchy and immigration replacement. We should have occupied them after World War 2. We probably should have left the Germans in charge after World War 2, but don't tell anyone I said that.
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That is the only explanation which makes sense to me for why the USA and France don't get along so well.
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Their smell offends us almost as greatly as does their fashion. THEY parcipitated World War 1 because THEY hadn't learned ANY lesson from the last two hundred years.
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But if you complaint is that France was WRONG to try to take back View Nam, I am in total ageement with you.
And, let's chasten France just a bit more for that mistake, too, shall we?
They were TOTALLY wrong to try to reimpose their lost empire in SE ASIA, and the USA told them NOT to do it. They basically held out before joining NATO to force us to stop objecting to their stupid policy of retaking Viet Nam.
They should have let HO take over that nation, and the USA should have become his ally, just as he asked of us during WWII.
Why on earth we then decided to jump into that briar patch after the French got their asses kicked by Ho, I'll never understand.
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Hell, Ho came durring the
League of Nations to get help. We could have put an END to that Communist crap right there and started Indochina on a road to Independence. Again, France should have been smashed and TR president. Oh well -- the Japs would have been fit to be tied.
If we had them occupied this wouldn't have happened.