Quote: Originally Posted by
toomuchtime_ 
Quote: Originally Posted by
Immanuel
Let's see the actual plan first before we jump to the conclusion whether or not the government will put private insurers out of business.
As I said earlier, the plan as proposed by President Obama would put them out of business. However, that is not a final plan nor is it actually in the works. Also, I was concerned that medical professionals and those who desire to enter the field would be discouraged from practicing the trade at reduced wages. I didn't hear the President's speech yesterday. I'm willing to wait and see.
I'm against anything that will eliminate competition. But, I'd rather hear the plan and debate from there.
Immie
The key issue is whether or not a public plan would receive government subsidies not available to private plans so that it could charge artificially low rates and drive private insurers out of business. If the law were written so that the public plan could not receive such subsidies, there would be little opposition to it, and fact that Obama, Dodd, Pelosi, etc. have consistently refused to give that assurance tells us that they do not believe a public plan could provide healthcare more efficiently or less expensively than private plans now do, and when they talk about introducing competition into the market, they are lying.
At first the public plan will get government money, and then after that it will be funded by premiums.
All the for profits have to do is lower their costs and start being competitive. There goes that company jet.
And instead of a $20 million bonus, they'll only get $1 million dollar bonus'. Boo Hoo!!
I can't remember the details, but there was this doctor in charge of a hospital or in charge of a insurance company and his pay was so outragous you wouldn't believe it. I wish I could find the story. But that is why healthcare is out of control.
I remember a few years ago people on the right tried to tell me that CEO/Executive pay was a drop in the bucket. I always knew that was a lie but never had proof. Now we know.
Just the CEO alone. If he/she makes $20 million dollars, that's 400 people making $50K a year.
And look at how much CEO pay is now compared to years ago. Funny they get cost of living raises and raises to help with inflation but we don't?
In 2005 CEO's made 300 times more than their workers. Today 431 to one. Fuck anyone who says a line worker isn't worth $35 hr.
In the old days they made 40 times more than the average worker.
Again, fuck anyone who can justify this and not want to pay a line worker $35 hr.