What is Christian Nationalism and is it a threat?

  1. The federal government should declare the United States as a Christian nation.
Well, that would require repealing the First Amendment.


The federal government should advocate Christian values.
That also would require repealing the First Amendment.

  1. The federal government should enforce strict separation of church and state.
That's a direct contradiction of question 1.



The federal government should allow the display of religious symbols in public spaces.
I'm fine with that so long as ALL religious symbols are allowed.

I think we both know MAGA tards would not tolerate Islamic symbols on public property.




The success of the United States is part of God’s plan.
That's a private opinion.




The federal government should allow prayer in public schools.

Bible study groups are allowed on public school property under the same rules as a chess club or a football team.

As for prayer in the classroom during the school day, do you think MAGA tards would be cool with a Muslim prayer?

No? Me, either.


I don't understand how #1 and #3 can coexist in this poll. How can one declare the US a Christian nation and believe that there should be a separation of church and state. Even polls don't make sense with all this hysteria.
One thing we know for certain about MAGA tards calling themselves Christians is that they don't believe in the separation of church and state. In fact, they have nothing but utter contempt for this founding principle.

When she's not giving handjobs at a children's play in public, Boerbert stands with her ugly pinched face in the pulpit sneering at a "stinking letter" written by one of our Founders.

MAGAs have contempt for the Constitution, with the single exception of the Second Amendment. Most of them, including Boobert, have never read it. The words are too big and the concepts too complicated and the historical context beyond their ignorance.
 
Proof in writing that this country was not founded on any religion. 240520 {post•41}

NotfooledbyW May’24 Vpiwtt: The debate that mattered on a secular constitutional basis was between rational theists like Franklin Washington Adams Jefferson and Madison for a secular government tolerant of all religion versus the Connecticut Wits and all supernatural Cross of Jesus Bible believers.

The Cross of Christ was stricken from the Constitution because the rational theists won the debate.

You need to come to an understanding of the Connecticut Wits in order to have a meaningful discussion on the relationship between Christianity and the original founding documents, the declaration of independence and of course, the United States Constitution.

Here is an excerpt regarding the Connecticut Wits.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ay-america-was-founded-as-a-christian-nation/
"The Origins of American Religious Nationalism." By Sam Haselby

Sam Haselby is a historian, an editor at Aeon Magazine and the author of "The Origins of American Religious Nationalism."July 4, 2017 at 6:00 AM

So there are insuperable obstacles to the Christian nationalist position. But there is also a neglected and fascinating history, key to American independence. Quite simply, America’s first patriots were acutely Christian and did envision, at least, an acutely Christian, which to them meant Protestant, nation. They issued the first calls for American independence. More specifically, America’s first nationalist movement was a small group of young New England writers at Yale College who were fiercely Christian. Timothy Dwight and John Trumbull were the group’s founding members, and by 1769, at the Yale College commencement, they publicly protested for American independence. Noah Webster, of dictionary fame, would later come into the group, too.

These young writers, who called themselves the Connecticut Wits, were terrible poets, but they were visionary American nationalists. Dwight’s epic poem, “The Conquest of Canaan,” portrayed an independent America as the new Holy Land. He began it in 1771.

Most Americans, by contrast, supported reconciliation with Britain well into 1776. Years later, Dwight would complain that for their early, open advocacy of American independence they had suffered years of ridicule and contempt. John Trumbull’s 1773 poem “An Elegy of the Times” is a clear, repeated call, steeped in New England Protestantism, for nationalist revolution. Though I’ve never met anyone today who has read it, Trumbull’s 1775 poem “M’Fingal” was the best-selling poem of the American Revolution. It went through 30 editions, a feat no other American poet managed until Henry Wadsworth Longfellow in 1847. M’Fingal is a lampoon of the Scottish Enlightenment and a sclerotic Great Britain in the name of enlightened and vital independent, Protestant America nfbw 240520 Vpiwtt00041



b. What is Christian Nationalism and is it a threat? 240415 {post•46} Libby von H Apr’24 Swicna: Also a sign of stupidity to use that term since “you can OBVIOUSLY be Christian and a Nationalist without in any way fitting what is called CN.” lbbyvnh 240415 Swicna00046


Proof in writing that this country was not founded on any religion. 240523. {post•85}

NotfooledbyW May’24 Vpiwtt: Rated…in order from ..benign to destructive toward the institution of democracy

1. nationalism
2. white Christian nationalism
3. White Nationslism

Trump is all three.


What is Christian Nationalism and is it a threat? 240523 {post•62}.

NotfooledbyW May’24 Vwicna: See post Vpiwtt00085 if you have intellectual curiosity.

Do you believe America was founded by White European men Christian Men like “The Connecticut Wits” or rational theists like Thomas Paine, Franklin, Washington, Adams, Jefferson, and Madison for a secular government tolerant of all religion as shown in post Vpiwtt00041 at the top?

nfbw 240523 Vwicna00062
 
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If any "Christian" or non-Christian would like a good read on how the U.S. is NOT a Christian nation, nor founded on actual Christ like principals, then read "Myth of a Christian Nation" by Greg Boyd.

Boyd is a theologian, but not your typical, westernized, Bible thumpin', end of days, zionist. He's actual a very well spoken, thought provoking theologian that breaks from many traditional Westernized beliefs.

Here is they summary from Amazon:
The church was established to serve the world with Christ-like love, not to rule the world. It is called to look like a corporate Jesus, dying on the cross for those who crucified him, not a religious version of Caesar. It is called to manifest the kingdom of the cross in contrast to the kingdom of the sword. Whenever the church has succeeded in gaining what most American evangelicals are now trying to get – political power – it has been disastrous both for the church and the culture. Whenever the church picks up the sword, it lays down the cross. The present activity of the religious right is destroying the heart and soul of the evangelical church and destroying its unique witness to the world. The church is to have a political voice, but we are to have it the way Jesus had it: by manifesting an alternative to the political, “power over,” way of doing life. We are to transform the world by being willing to suffer for others – exercising “power under,” not by getting our way in society – exercising “power over"
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